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Look at the upsets in the conference tournaments.
In the Big 12 you had top-seed Kansas and also two-seed Oklahoma lose in the opening round. I watched the second half of the Sooners and Oklahoma State. Former Kentucky player and also former coach at UMass, Travis Ford, he's done a good job this year for the Cowboys. Maybe T. Boone Pickens will get Travis a hefty pay raise. HA HA HA HA ... The Texas Longhorns will probably win the Big 12 title.
And yesterday in the Big East, two-seed Pitt and three-seed UConn lost. The door's definitely open now for Rick Pitino's Louisville Cardinals to win the Big East and in the process secure a No. 1 seed for the Big Dance. But the Cardinals' had best not overlook Villanova. Tonight's game matching West Virginia and Syracuse, that should be interesting. Because the Orangemen have to be running on tired legs following last night's marathon against UConn.
I didn't expect to see Georgia Tech beat Clemson last night in the ACC tournament in the Georgia Dome, but they did. The Yellow Jackets almost beat Florida State today, narrowly losing 64-62.
But the biggie today in Atlanta was North Carolina coming back late to beat Virginia Tech. If ACC player of the year Ty Lawson had played for the Tar Heels, Tech wouldn't have even been in the game. Will the Hokies' 18-14 record get them an at-large NCAA bid? Nope-eeeeee, I don't believe it will. It looks like Coach Seth Greenburg will be getting the Hokies ready to play in the NIT. But at least one coaching Greenburg will be at the Big Dance, Seth's brother's Radford Highlanders.
With Carolina and Florida State winning today, Wake Forest and Duke should each win tonight to set them up to battle in tomorrow's ACC semifinals. I believe if Ty Lawson doesn't play in the ACC tournament for the Tar Heels, either Duke or Wake Forest will win the championship. It's probably a smart move on Coach Roy Williams' part in not playing Lawson. Let him get healed before the Big Dance.
In the Big Ten, it'd be hard to go against Coach Tom Izzo's Michigan State Spartans. They looked good (in what I watched of them beating Minnesota today). MSU will now play Ohio State on Saturday, but the Spartans should beat the Buckeyes. The Spartans just might be a No. 1 seed in the Big Dance, but I hope Coach Tubby Smith's Gophers get an at-large NCAA bid. Illinois will probably meet Michigan State for the Big Ten championship.
Conference USA, what else can you say but Memphis is playing some high school teams. The Tigers are getting no respect for their dominance over the last few years in C-USA. The days when the conference had Cincinnati, DePaul and a couple other teams that have since defected, C-USA was a decent conference. But now it's all Memphis.
I watched part of the Southern Cal and California game last night, and USC got the win there right at the end. But the Pac-10, who really cares? UCLA plays USC tonight and Arizona State plays Washington. It'll probably be the Bruins and Huskies winning.
LSU should beat Mississippi State in one of the SEC's semifinals tomorrow. I really thought South Carolina would beat the Bulldogs this afternoon, because it was important to the Gamecocks' NCAA chances. But it was all MSU, winning 82-68.
Now tonight, I hope the Tennessee Vols beat Alabama. To be quite honest, I would've rather seen the Big Orange play Vanderbilt. But Vandy couldn't get the job done against the Crimson Tide last night. So it's now a rematch with the Vols playing 'Bama. Alabama beat the Vols in Knoxville this past Sunday, so I hope the Vols come out with guns-a-blazin' tonight. It's a fact, if the Vols don't hit their free throws tonight, they won't win. What was it, 9-22 or 10-22 the Vols were from the charity stripe last Sunday against Alabama. I don't care if you're playing Boys Club League basketball, you're not going to win shooting foul shots that poorly.
The other SEC quarterfinal game matches Florida against Auburn. I'd like to see the Gators win. I hope they get into the Big Dance with an at-large bid. But it's highly unlikely with their weak schedule they've played this year.
Well, it's time to get the snacks ready before the Vols and 'Bama come on TV. GO VOLS!!!
Edited by RW on March-14-2009 at 10:06pm
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BugMan Moderator Group


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So how about those VOLS RW!! When that guard from Bama (Senario Hillman) ran right through their pre-game shoot-around I figured it would be their last game. Tennessee couldn't throw it in the ocean from 3 pt land in the first half and still led by 11.
It's a final! Tennessee 86 Alabama 62...
..."around the bowl and down the hole, roll tide roll"!!!
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BugMan Moderator Group


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RW?
"The Seminoles almost beat Fla St?? LOL!!!
So "The Cuse" goes to overtime again to beat WV. What a resilient team! I think they might go far in the tourney.
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RW Retired Champ


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Well "BugMan," it appears only you and I are interested in NCAA tournament basketball. I like college football, but I love college basketball ... especially when March tournament time rolls around. Because anything can, and usually does, happen. When you tip-it-up, each team has a fightin' chance until the final buzzer sounds.
With the region experiencing rainy, crappy weather the last couple of days, I've about overdosed watching basketball on TV. After the Vols played Saturday afternoon, I did go meet my sisters and aunt and uncle to eat some good barbecue at Smokey Bones, though. Smokey Bones is good stuff. I encourage anyone if you're in Johnson City to stop by Smokey Bones and eat. It's located in front of the JC Mall, beside of Olive Garden (also near Red Lobster).
Yeah, "BugMan" ... somebody needed to slap a STUPID sign across Hillman's forehead. Maybe he thought what he did would intimidate the Vols, and I'm sure Hillman was runnin' his mouth trash-talking too. But it backfired big-time on the Crimson Tide. Vols Win! Vols Win! Vols Win!!!
The Vols also beat Auburn on Saturday to advance to play Mississippi State, who upset top-seed LSU. The Bulldogs are playing good ball of late, after getting players healthy who had been injured. They know their only hope of getting into the Big Dance is by winning the SEC title. I hope the Vols can beat 'em. GO VOLS and win the SEC championship. The Vols' have played good team ball in beating 'Bama and Auburn, I just hope they play well as a team on Sunday to beat Mississippi State. If the Vols win the SEC championship, they should be looking at between a four to seven seed for the Big Dance. Wayne Chism had an outstanding game Saturday, and Tyler Smith played well along with J.P. Prince. Bobby Maze even played pretty good ball running the point.
Upsets have continued like crazy on Friday night and Saturday. I watched some of the UCLA and USC game Friday night, and the Trojans won. And then Saturday night they came back late in the game to beat Arizona State to win the Pac-10 title, their first-ever conference championship. Tim Floyd's really done a great job with USC. Just think how awesome the Trojans would be if O.J. Mayo hadn't turned pro early? Freshman DeMar DeRozan, I watched him play in the Tri-Cities in 2006 in the Boys AAU National Basketball Tournament, when he played on celebrity Master P and his son Lil' Romeo's team based out of Los Angeles. I have Master P's and Lil' Romeo's and DeRozan's autographs on the cover of my AAU program. I remember in the championship round of the tournament, played in Kingsport at Sullivan North High School, the place wa packed. DeRozan was an unreal talent as a 16-year-old kid. I talked one afternoon between games with Master P, and he told me it was already set-in-stone DeMar would play collegiately at Southern Cal. DeRozan played great ball in the Pac-10 championship game, scoring over 20 points and grabbing several rebounds.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I was soooooooooooooooooooooo peeed when Florida State beat the Tar Heels. I can't stand that group of Seminoles. I call it as I see it, and the way they play ball, they are "thugs." They're dirty players. I hope the Duke Blue Devils beat the Seminoles like a drum on Sunday. GO BLUE DEVILS!!!
The men's tournament bracket will be announced Sunday at 6 p.m., and then the women's bracket will be released Monday night.
I wish the ETSU men and women the very best in the Big Dance. But I know in all reality they both will have their work cut out for them to win a game. But they Bucs' knocked off the Arizona Wildcats in the opening round in 1992, when the Bucs were a 14-seed. A couple years prior to that, they almost slayed Oklahoma, when the Sooners were a 1-seed and the Bucs a 16-seed. Three buddies of mine and I, we went to Nashville to watch that game. It was played at Vanderbilt, and the place was going wild cheering for the Bucs to beat Oklahoma.
Surely others are watching NCAA tournament basketball??? C'mon, let's hear your opinions. We need more discussing in this topic than just "BugMan" and I.
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RW Retired Champ


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"The Seminoles almost beat Fla St?? LOL!!!
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I'm tellin' ya, it was the doggone-dest thing I've ever seen. Those Yellow Jackets stung those Seminoles, and before all was said and done, the Seminoles almost beat Florida State. HA HA HA HA
And before all the stingers could be pulled out, word was released by the NCAA that a big cheating scandal had occured in Tallahasse, and possibly games are going to have to be forfeited.
And folks, as the late Paul Harvey would say - "And now you have the rest of the story." RIP Paul Harvey. I really do hate future generations won't be able to hear the wisdom of Harvey.
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BugMan Moderator Group


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I had no idea the "Noles" were this good. Call them want you want, but to beat the "Heels" playing any brand of ball is an accomplishment. NC will not have a chance to win it all unless Ty Lawson is healthy, and I don't think he will be healthy enough for the grind of an NCAA Tourney.
HOW 'BOUT DEM VOLS!? It never dawned on me that they haven't won an SEC basketball championship in 30 years. I don't think there'll be a let-down today. They'll be loose because they know they're in the dance. On the other hand, Miss. St. has to win and I think they'll be tight during both the beginning and end of the game. The VOLS should be able to handle them today and bring the SEC hardware home where it belongs!
RW, the more I see them, the more I believe Louisville has a shot to win it all. They looked awfully good in the Big East Tourney.
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as far as the the big east goes, I really think you have at least three, if not four, very serious contenters for the national championship(pitt,uconn,louisville, and after the way they played in the big east tourney, syracuse) their are even a couple really strong second tier teams in the conference(villanova and my mountaineers, sorry bugman lol) i really dont see how the big east can not figure heavily in the "big dance" you have seven really strong teams headed in and just for the record mountaineer fever is running strong here in charleston lol
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James K Track Owner

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I was really dissapointed that the Bucs are a 16 seed. But if they beat Pitt and UT wins they will both meet. Now that would be crazy!!!!
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If the Bucs beat Pitt, it will be the first time in the history of the NCAA tournament that a #16 seed defeats a #1 seed. You know what they say though, there's a first time for everything...
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I would love to see Pitt go down, makes it easier for Duke. Since UK is gone atleast Duke is still kicking it
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See Bobby sometimes you do confuse me. I know you are a UK fan but most UK fans HATE DUKE!!!!!
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To be honest, I've always been a Tar Heel fan. I thought that St. Mary's should have gotten in, but with Mississippi State taking the SEC Championship it took a spot away from a better team.
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Yeah, I believe most locals in East Tennessee/Southwest Virginia were kind of surprised seeing the East Tennessee State University Buccaneers receive a 16-seed, getting paired against top-seed Pittsburgh. The Bucs most definitely have a tough road ahead of them, if they expect to win. But as I mentioned above in a previous post, three of my buddies and I, we were in Nashville back 20 years ago in 1989 when the Bucs were a 16-seed and they almost beat top-seed Oklahoma. Maybe the Bucs can beat Pitt, but to be quite honest, I'm not all that optimistic about their chances. But all the Bucs can do is play good ball for 40 minutes and see what good effort will bring them. Hopefully the Bucs will be the first 16-seed to ever beat a 1-seed.
Several of my buddies and I, we figured at best the Bucs would be a 13-seed and at worst a 15-seed. You can't tell me some of the 15- and 14-seeds are better teams than the Bucs. But it really doesn't matter, I don't guess. Because with 64 teams in the Big Dance, whether you're a 13, 14, 15 or 16-seed ... you're going to matched against a top-16 ranked team. It's called March Madness, and there's always upsets.
Much talk has focused on Kentucky and Florida not being in the field of 64 (well, 65 teams counting the play-in game). But what about the Indiana Hoosiers not being in the NCAA tournament? What an awful season the Hoosiers had. With the success the storied program had under Coach Bobby Knight for so many years, who would've thought the Hoosiers would be so bad these days. The Wildcats not making the Big Dance is big news, but look at Florida also not making the tournament ... and for the second consecutive year, too ... after winning the NCAA title for the previous two seasons. Wow!!!
There will always be fans of their favorite schools upset because their team was left out of the Big Dance. I'm thinking I heard correctly on ESPN SportsCenter a little while ago, 33 teams are in the field this year that wasn't last year. That's right at half the field this year was sitting home watching last season.
Mississippi State beating Tennessee for the SEC crown, that meant either Auburn or South Carolina didn't receive an at-large invitation. The SEC was down this year, or was it just parity and each team beat up on one another during the season? I believe the conference overall was down, but still yet ... the argument for parity amongst the schools could be a legitimate point. Anyway, the SEC only has LSU, Tennessee and Mississippi State in the tournament.
I'm telling you, the Big Ten also had a down year ... but somehow they still received seven invitations. Bobby Knight even said on TV he didn't think the Big Ten deserved seven teams in the tournament. Knight said the seedings show that if the Big East and ACC each have seven teams in the tournament, there’s "no way" that the Big Ten should have seven as well. I can see the teams the Big East and Atlantic Coast Conference got in the Big Dance, because those conferences really had some good basketball teams this year.
I'll let others give your thoughts and opinions before I give more of mine.
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NIT: Auburn, Creighton, Florida, SDSU get top seeds; Saint Mary's in, too
NEW YORK — Passed over by the NCAA tournament selection committee, Saint Mary's didn't even manage a top seed in the NIT.
The Gaels and playmaking guard Patrick Mills fell on the second line Sunday for the 32-team tournament, placed in the same bracket with San Diego State.
Joining the Aztecs as top seed were Auburn, Creighton and Florida, which earned the dubious distinction of becoming the first team to follow consecutive national titles with back-to-back NIT berths.
Other notable teams that landed in the NIT included Davidson and scoring sensation Stephen Curry, NCAA tournament darlings last March, and Kentucky, which had been to 17 consecutive NCAA tournaments.
Saint Mary's was likely one of the last teams left on the doorstep when the NCAA field was announced, even though it went 2-3 against teams in the RPI top 50 and had won five in a row entering the West Coast Conference tournament.
"I was hoping common sense prevailed," said Randy Bennett, the coach of the small Catholic school near San Francisco. "Using common sense, we're one of the top 34 (at-large) teams. This was the best team we've ever had, so it's just disappointing to be in this situation."
Mills broke his hand on Jan. 29 and missed a big part of the second half, rushing back for the conference tournament. After losing to Gonzaga, the Gaels played a late game against Eastern Washington trying to remind the committee what they look like with their star in the lineup.
It evidently didn't make much difference.
"We did get our hopes up a little," Mills said, "but there's a great lesson to be learned on how to handle adversity and how to handle distractions and making the most of your opportunities."
The Gaels (26-6) instead will play Washington State on Tuesday in the NIT's opening round, while San Diego State plays Weber State. The Aztecs (23-9) had the highest RPI at 34 of any team that didn't make the NCAA tournament.
Davidson (26-7), stunned by College of Charleston in the Southern Conference tournament, will be making its fifth NIT appearance. The Wildcats had hoped a tough non-conference schedule that included wins over North Carolina State and West Virginia and competitive losses to Oklahoma and Purdue might still send them dancing.
"The picture is very clear that the opportunity to go through the door for us is not as big an opportunity as for the BCS programs," Davidson coach Bob McKillop said. "The margin for error is ever so slight.
"We had a pretty good track record, but Creighton did, too, and Saint Mary's did, too. There are a lot of disappointed people tonight."
Kansas State will play Illinois State in the other game in that bracket, and the Wildcats are taking a much more positive approach to playing in the postseason
"It's an opportunity to continue to compete, continue to practice and better prepare our basketball team for the future," coach Frank Martin said. "It's always about the future."
Auburn (22-11) will open Wednesday night against Tennessee-Martin, which lost in the Ohio Valley Conference semifinals to eventual champ Morehead State.
The winner will play fourth-seeded Tulsa, which lost to Memphis in the Conference USA title game, or Northwestern. The other games in that portion of the bracket include Big 12 tournament runner-up Baylor against Georgetown, and Virginia Tech against Duquesne.
"Just having a chance to play in the postseason is an honor and a privilege for our guys," said Dukes coach Ron Everhart, who was a senior co-captain while playing at Virginia Tech from 1981-85. "To be able to do it at your alma mater, that's as good as it gets."
Creighton (26-7), which tied Northern Iowa for the Missouri Valley regular-season title, will host Bowling Green in the opening round. The winner of that game will get Kentucky or UNLV, two teams much more accustomed to be playing elsewhere this time of year.
The Wildcats were considered a lock for the NCAA tournament in late January, but beginning with a road loss to Ole Miss, Kentucky wound up losing nine of its last 13 games.
The bottom half of Creighton's bracket includes New Mexico and talented senior Tony Dandridge against Nebraska, and Notre Dame against Robert Vaden and Alabama-Birmingham.
The Gators (23-10) reached the NIT title game last season, but have arguably the toughest road to get back to Madison Square Garden. They'll open against Jacksonville, a member of the Atlantic Sun, with the chance to play Miami or Providence in the second round.
Niagara will play Rhode Island on the bottom half of Florida's bracket, while Big Ten upstart Penn State meets George Mason.
"We're very, very disappointed," said Nittany Lions coach Ed DeChellis, who watched seven other Big Ten teams reach the NCAA tournament. "Coming into this thing I thought it was going to be real hard to get eight teams into the tournament, and I thought we needed one more win."
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RW Retired Champ


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RW wrote:
while Big Ten upstart Penn State meets George Mason.
"We're very, very disappointed," said Nittany Lions coach Ed DeChellis, who watched seven other Big Ten teams reach the NCAA tournament. "Coming into this thing I thought it was going to be real hard to get eight teams into the tournament, and I thought we needed one more win."
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I was really shocked former ETSU coach Ed DeChellis' Penn State team didn't receive an at-large invitation. They deserved one. Being seven Big Ten teams got invitations, the Nittany Lions were at least a fifth-seventh place team in the Big Ten. They had some good quality wins this year, too.
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RW Retired Champ


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Is anyone besides myself sick-and-tired of hearing the words "Bracketologist" or "Bracketology?"
Another thing, it would be real cool if we couldn't somehow have a RacersLounge March Madness contest. I always fill out tournament brackets with several buddies of mine. Each of us fills out a bracket and we pay $20 to play, with the person having the bracket picking the most winners receiving 50 percent of the pool of money, second most correct picks gets 30 percent and third gets 20 percent. Last year there were 24 of us participating. Two years ago I won. I just don't know of any way to put a bracket on here and people be able to fll on out online.
I also each year fill out a bracket on ESPN and also on CBS Sports.
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James K Track Owner

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If anyone can figure it out it would be Van or Old Pro, RW.
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I was hoping the inevitable wouldn't happen (ETSU getting a 16 seed), but it did. I think Belmont has been a 16 every time they've gone too. Let's face it, the A-Sun is one of the 4 weakest basketball conferences in Div-1.
I play 2 brackets every year. One is the regular bracket and the other is just wayyyy fun. You assign points from 64-1 as to who you think will do well/win the tourney. With each passing round the points double for round 2, triple for round 3 and so on. It's a blast! We usually have 80-100 on that one, and I won it in 2007. $20 bucks on that one too...I like it because you're never out of it. They pay 1-5, then special prizes for different things; for example you pick yourself to finish in "x" place when it's over. If you picked the correct spot you finished, you win a cash prize! It is way cool.
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James K wrote:
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It would be possible to create an Excel file and link it to a download page. Of course, that would include someone having to sit down and figure up points for selections and stuff like that. Honestly, there is another way to create an automated version, but I am swamped with work right now...AND ON VACATION! HAHA!
One option would be for us to go to one of the places that lets you fill out a free bracket and set up a special group just for RacersLounge members and provide a password to join. If you are interested in doing that, then I could look and find one later today. Just let me know.
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Van_84 wrote:
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Technically, it would be the first time on the Men's side of the bracket that's happened. It did happen several years ago in women's basketball when, I wanna say, Harvard beat Stanford. I can't remember the right year though.
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Hey Shawn Yahoo does one like this. If you wanna look at it.
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We could simply create a group on the CBS site. One of us needs to captain the room and invite everyone that would want to play. That would also give us a chance to compete Nationally and win prizes.
We could call our team something like the "RacersLoungeLizards" or the "RacersLounge-Chair Coaches"
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I took your suggestion BugMan, you can find the thread HERE
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