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....in the Chick-Fil-A bowl! At least that's what it appears to be happening. Should make things interesting on this board for a non racing topic. Hey Bug, will your allegiances be torn? RW, I think you're pretty much a big orange guy and James K is a Hokie I think.....should be a very good game if it happens. Maybe it's not the infield at Bristol but it's a neat game nonetheless.
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GO HOKIES!!!!
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now woowoo u know u want ut to beat the old hokies
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Most definitely Robbie, it's a big GO VOLS from me!!!
I heard about the Tennessee Vols versus Virginia Tech Hokies possible bowl game pairing on local sports-talk radio here in the Tri-Cities Tuesday afternoon. After this past weekend's games, talk was the Vols would be heading to either the Outback Bowl or Cotton Bowl, with Peach Bowl also a possibility.
To be quite honest, I liked idea of Vols going to Cotton Bowl. Even though that game doesn't rank in the bowl hierarchy like it once did, there's still a lot of history surrounding the Cotton Bowl. And with this year's game, if I'm not mistaken, going to be played in the new Dallas Cowboys stadium ... I just liked idea of Vols heading to Lone Star State for New Year's. With Ole Miss having participated in Cotton Bowl last year, I just didn't think they'd be going back to Dallas for second straight year.
If I'm not mistaken, "James K" is a Kentucky Wildcat fan. Hey "James K" ... How 'Bout Them Vols!!! The Wildcats have now lost to the Vols on the gridiron for 25 consecutive years, and I believe that's the longest current losing streak to a team in college football. I will say, though, I was very nervous heading into the Vols versus Wildcats game. Because 2009 is the year Kentucky had ended a 43-year losing streak against Auburn (playing at Auburn), and 32-year losing streak against Georgia (playing in Athens). I really thought the Randall "Wild" Cobb-led Wildcats just might beat the Vols. Cobb did play a great game for Kentucky.
So "WOO-WOO," you're pulling for the Hokies? I will say, of all times for the Vols to be playing the Hokies, I wish it wasn't the present. Record-wise the Hokies look to be better than the Vols. But the game's not played in the standings, or on paper. It's played on the field, and for all Vol fans we'll just have to see how the Vols under first-year coach Lane Kiffin will do against the Hokies.
I think Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer is a class act, I really respect him and he's one of college football's top coaches. The Hokies are a pretty good team, with an explosive offense and strong defense. The Hokie backfield boasts good talent, in quarterback Tyrod Taylor and freshman running back Ryan Williams, who this week was named to All-Atlantic Coast Conference first team.
The Vols played the Hokies in 1994 Gator Bowl at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium on the campus of the University of Florida. Why there, instead of in Jacksonville? Renovations were taking place at the Gator Bowl, getting the stadium ready for the National Football League's Jacksonville Jaguars. Off top of my head I don't remember the exact number of years, but prior to '94 game it was like 50 to 60 years since the last time Vols played Virginia Tech in football.
1994 was also Peyton Manning's freshman season in Knoxville, and he was named the Southeastern Conference Freshman of the Year. What's ironic regarding Peyton getting to play Virginia Tech in the Gator Bowl is his father, Archie Manning, had also played against the Hokies when he was quarterback at Ole Miss in the 1968 Liberty Bowl in Memphis.
I'm sure Robbie and "BugMan" remember how Peyton got his playing time during his freshman season. Jerry Colquitt was the penciled-in starting quarterback entering the '94 season, but his playing time ended quickly as he suffered a knee injury in season-opener against UCLA. His backup was none other than Knoxville Central High School star athlete Todd Helton, who suffered a shoulder injury (I'm not positive which game, but it was early on ... maybe the second or third game). Helton knew his future was in Major League Baseball, and the door was opened for Manning. Well, kind of ... as Texas product Brandon Stewart was also competing for playing time with Peyton.
Robbie, "BugMan" or anyone ... was '94 Phillip Fulmer's second or third season as head coach of the Vols? Off top of my head, I forget what year he replaced Johnny Majors. But I'm thinking his first full season was in 1992, after he'd filled in for Majors during 1991 while he recuperated from surgery.
For Hokie fans, I know Virginia Tech was in Big East Conference back in '94. What year did Hokies move to Atlantic Coast Conference?
Well, enough ramblin' on talkin' about the possible Vols versus Hokies matchup in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Let's wait until official bowl pairings are announced. But I'm excited about the game.
Hey "WOO-WOO," when the Vols played the Hokies in '94 Gator Bowl, the Vols won 45-23. Who will win this year, the Vols from the Southeastern Conference or the Hokies from the Atlantic Coast Conference?
College football bowl season, it just doesn't get any better.
GO VOLS!!!
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If i'm not mistaken they moved there in 2004 when the offer came in 2003 to join.
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The No.16 Oregon State Beavers @ No.7 Oregon Ducks has been a great game so far. I'd love to see a game like this one played by the Hokies-Vols.
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Alliances? What alliances? LOL!
VA Tech, with their lofty BCS hopes, early top 5 pre-season ranking and all of that talent should smack the rebuilding VOLS around like a red headed step-child...
...but alas it won't happen. Tennessee will do the same thing to Va Tech they did to em last time in the Gator Bowl when all of the Va Tech fans were talking about how bad the VOLS were gonna get spanked. Instead, there were times I almost felt sorry for the outlcassed Hokies...I'm sure there will be times I feel sorry for them again this year...NOT:
Tennessee Volunteers-38
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Well,
Ive been to 4 tech games this year. what I can see techs offence has been unpredictible. But the more they play, the easier there moving the football down the field. The defense has been sharp most of the year, except for when the option is used. But no worry tennessee has no quarterback, and there special teams r horrible. I have a friend that goes to UT and he said the special teams for tech would kill the vols from moving the ball.
Score= VT=34 Vols=10
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I agree, special teams for us (TN) are horrible, that's the part of the game that scares me the most about playing Tech.
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That is where 9 of my 16 points came from...Tech's Special Teams...Special teams alone can't win the game for Tech, and their offense won't score more than a TD against Tennessee's defense.
We have no QB? Are you kidding me? Sounds like somebody is living in the distant past. Since halftime of the Auburn game Crompton is the reason we won many of our games, coming within one pass of tying Casey Clausen for most attempts in a row without an interception (144). He ended up with I believe 25 TD passes, which I believe is right around the the % (25) of passes Tyrod actually completes isn't it?!
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Shawn, you're right ... that was a great game played between Oregon and Oregon State. I just wish the Beavers had won. After the LeGarette Blount incident to begin the season, and then Oregon later letting him back on the team, I sure wasn't pulling for the Ducks. And besides, those green and yellow uniforms are ugly. HA HA HA
I really though Oregon State was going to win the game and be Rose Bowl bound. But it just wasn't meant to be.
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Hey "BugMan," if the Vols and Hokies do get paired up, I'll take the score you predicted anyday. GO VOLS!!!
I'm with you guys: Special teams play for the Vols is concerning. The Vols just can't cover well on kickoff or punt returns. And whoa, the place-kicking for the Vols is quite possibly the worst in history. If the Vols had a kicker, Alabama wouldn't be undefeated. The punting game for the Vols isn't all that great, either.
It's going to be interesting Sunday night to see the bowl pairings.
I can tell you right now, I'll be cheering for the Texas Longhorns to beat the Alabama Crimson Tide in the national championship game. I would cheer for Mexico or Communist China to beat Alabama. Well, moreso head coach Nick Saban. I cannot stand that arrogant, cocky Saban. He has the "little man" complex. I will say, though, he's a good coach. But I just don't care for his personality. Arrogance and cockiness are two personal traits I don't care for.
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With the cold, snowy weather on Saturday, I watched all the football games. No way did I think Cincinnatti would come back to beat Pittsburgh. That was an awesome game.
The East Carolina and Houston C-USA title game was also good. All Houston had to do at end was score a touchdown and kick extra point, but they just couldn't get the job done.
Florida and Alabama, I don't even want to talk about it. HA HA HA HA ... Oh, I wanted the Gators to win.
West Virginia and Rutgers, a pretty good Big East game ... played in snowy conditions just like Pitt and Cincy.
I really thought Nebraska was going to beat Texas, but the Longhorns pulled it out.
And what about Georgia Tech, and the Jackets beatin' Clemson. Man, I was pulling for the Tigers.
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Bama made the Gators look...well..."Florrible". I loved every single second of it too!
Bama did exactly what I thought Florida was going to do; they opened up their playbook and confused the other side. I was a little surprised that Florida felt like they could take the Tide without one single wrinkle in their offensive game plan...
...and Texas...don't even get me started. They're not even the best team in their own State! I hope the BCS comes out Bama-TCU...if not for a kick-off out of bounds and a personal foul penalty late, the Longhorns would be in the Toilet Bowl!
Cincinnati shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with "National Championship"...even the Gators, after getting spanked by Bama will show everyone that watches the game that the Bearcats are pretenders. I'd have loved to have seen a Boise-Cinci match-up cos Boise would waste them too!
Anyway...
Round-trip flight to Atlanta- $425
Hotel Room for 2 nights-$300
Tickets to SEC Championship-$150
Seeing Tebow cry after his Gators got spanked by Alabama...PRICELESS!!!!
ROLL TIDE!!!!
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LaGarrette Blount had to eat a LOT of crow during the year to get back onto the field. The Civil War game against the Beavers was the first time that he had a carry since blowing his top after the Boise State game. I have a buddy that goes to Oregon and there is a lot that hasn't reached the media. Blount has done a lot of leg work to get back onto the field, knowing that ONE more screw up would be the end.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!
The Cincinnati-Pittsburgh game was a J-O-K-E! It seemed like neither one of the teams cared about winning. It was the worst game that Bearcats had played all season, trumped only by the Panthers putting on an even more disgraceful effort. To think that Cincy still has a shot (albeit NOT GONNA HAPPEN) at a National Title is deplorable.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!
Texas squeaked it out, which pretty much spells disaster for the Horned Frogs of TCU.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!
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Man, watching the bowl pairings announced tonight on ESPN, when the hosts talked with Alabama coach Nick Saban, I wanted to throw a hammer at the TV screen and hit Saban right between the eyes. HA HA HA ... My opinion is, and I know others' who feel the same way ... Saban's a smartazz!!! The way he answered Lou Holtz, Kirk Herbstreit, Mark May and Reece, he's just a smartazz ... bottom line. I always pull for the SEC, but I won't pull for Nick Saban. I hope the Texas Longhorns "roll" over Alabama and embarrass the Tide.
The BCS matchups, I think it's interesting pairing Boise State against Texas Christian University. But, a couple of my buddies and I talked about that situation tonight and we all concurred that's how it should be. Neither are from BCS conferences, and being wild-card BCS bowl busters ... they should have to play one another. Both teams are pretty good, but you've got to factor in the conference's they play in. I've only watched very little of TCU this season, and the same applies for Boise State. I just can't watch that stupid blue football field. Having field turf is great, I think. But at least have it green, the color of grass.
I thought the Pittsburgh and Cincinnatti game was good, mainly because when I watch football I want to see points put on the scoreboard. I don't want to watch a defensive standoff. Throw the ball, don't run it up the middle 30 times a game. The same with baseball, I want to see home runs sail over the outfield fence. The heck with watching a pitching duel. Sports is entertainment, and I want to be entertained by seeing touchdowns scored and home runs hit.
Even though Houston lost to East Carolina, from a fan's viewpoint of just watching the game, I loved seeing the Cougars air-it-out ... passing 56-75 for over 500 yards. Sure, Houston lost ... but they made it interesting.
I'm just glad Notre Dame is staying home in South Bend, Ind., and not participating in a bowl game. It's just not right the Fightin' Irish get to have their own national TV network, all because they don't want to have share TV money with other schools. But for all other sports, Notre Dame wants to be in Big East Conference. The Big East ought to tell Notre Dame, you also participate in football of you're not in the conference.
It's official, the UT Vols and Virginia Tech Hokies will play in the Chick-fil-A Bowl in Atlanta, Ga., on New Year's Eve. GO VOLS!!!
Let me say one more thing: Do y'all think 6-6 teams should be awarded a bowl berth? I know there's so many bowl games today that 6-6 teams get to participate. But I feel no team should be given a bowl bid unless they've at least got a winning record.
Hey "BugMan," you'd better be eatin' Little Caesar's pizza to help support your Marshall Thundering Herd.
C'mon others, join in on the bowl games discussion.
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The BCS is a joke! Cincinnati won their game because Pittsburgh fouled up and Texas barely squeaked by after an official review to put 0:01 back on the game clock, allowing the Longhorns to hit the game-winning 46-yard field goal.
The BCS needs those BCS-busting schools like Texas Christian University and Boise State! Why should a conference get an automatic bid just because it's the SEC, Pac10, Big 12, etc? That is the biggest load of croc that I've ever heard!
Think about it, if it was another sport we'd be crying FOUL! And we do, just look at The Big Dance every year. Each year there are teams that deserve to be in the tournament, but get knocked out because the SEC, Big East, or Big Ten, etc. has to have a certain number of teams in it.
Let's face the facts people...either you do well during the regular season, or you don't play in the post-season. Since 'Little E' sells the most t-shirts, why don't we just throw him into The Chase each year just because. It doesn't make sense!
The National Championship Game should be between the two teams that played the best throughout the entire year:
Alabama vs. TCU
I honestly think that TCU would put on a better show than Texas. In my opinion, the Horned Frogs were more deserving than the Longhorns.
Also, I am a big fan of 'small ball'. I'd rather see a team win a pennant by having a batting average with RISP and by being able to effectively move the runner from 1st to 3rd on a ball hit to the right side. Stolen bases and triples are more entertaining to me than the long ball.
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TCU had the opportunity to be a member of the Big 12 when the Southwest Conference disbanded. But noooooooooooo, the Horned Frogs felt they could compete better in their current conference. TCU was a longtime member of Southwest Conference, and by rights should've migrated to Big 12. Same goes for SMU. Finally, after being a cellar-dweller for many years, former Hawaii coach June Jones has gotten SMU in a bowl game ... and by coincidence back over in Hawaii.
I give TCU and all other undefeated teams credit for going through the regular season, and some teams also in a conference championship game, without a loss. But you've got to factor in the strength of schedule for teams like Boise State and TCU. Their conference schools aren't exactly world-beaters. I will give credit, however, to TCU for venturing east this year and facing a couple of ACC schools.
Who watched, or at least saw highlights of Appalachian State beating Richmond Saturday night? Appy State's got opportunity to win another national title. You've got to give FCS teams their due credit, because they do have a 16-team national title playoff.
Shawn, I have no problem whatsoever with the scenario you mentioned above in baseball. Hit the ball and put runners in scoring position, then drive 'em home with another base hit. I just don't care for a pitching duel with pitcher's mowing down batter-after-batter. To some that might be exciting, but I don't get excited over seeing that. I believe most people attend baseball games wanting to see the wood put on the ball.
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- Alabama (13-0): After convincing victories over No.7 Virginia Tech (34-24), No.20 Ole Miss (22-3), No.22 South Carolina (20-6), No.9 LSU (24-15), and No.1 Florida (32-13), the Tide have earned the #1 spot in this poll. How do you play the toughest schedule and still end up on top? Ask Coach Saban...
- TCU (12-0): The Mountain West Conference is not as weak as some like to think. TCU knocked off No.16 BYU (38-7) and No.16 Utah (55-28) in very convincing fashion. Both BYU and Utah ended the season in th Top 25 after very good years. The Horned Frogs also beat Clemson (14-10) early in the year and averaged 40.7 PPG, while allowing just 12.4 PPG this season.
- Texas (13-0): The Longhorns barely beat a Bradford-less No.20 Oklahoma team (16-13) and then squeaked out another victory against No.22 Nebraska in the Big 12 title game (13-12) after an official's review put 0:01 back on the clock. Yet, belonging to a BCS conference puts the Longhorns into the "National" Title Game.
- Cincinnati (12-0): The Bearcats played horribly in the Big East title game, but pulled off a 45-44 victory against No.15 Pittsburgh. Other big victories this season included Oregon State (28-18), No.21 South Florida (34-17), a tough Connecticut team (47-45), and No.25 West Virginia (24-21). This team is good and playing in a very tough, and underrated conference.
- Florida (12-1): The 'Danica Patrick' of college football did very little to impress this season. The only "big victory" of the year was over No.4 LSU (13-3), proving that the team was overrated. Good, but overrated. A 19-point loss to No.2 Alabama (32-13) hurt the legacy of Tebow. Another loss against Cincy would kill it.
- Boise State (13-0): The only big victory for the Broncos this season was against No.16 Oregon (19-8) to open the year. Yes, the WAC is that weak. Perhaps Boise State should consider a move to the MWC with TCU, BYU, Utah, and Air Force.
- Oregon (10-2): By far, this is the best two loss team in the Nation. After losing the season-opener to No.14 Boise State (19-8), the Ducks rallied losing only to a powerful Stanford team 51-42 late in the year. Big wins included No.18 Utah (31-24), No.6 Cal (42-3), No.5 USC (47-20), and No.16 Oregon State (37-33).
- Ohio State (10-2): Wins against No.11 Penn State (24-7) and No.10 Iowa (27-24 OT) were overshadowed by losses against No.3 USC (18-15) and Purdue (26-18). The USC loss was forgivable, but losing to the Boilermakers killed the Buckeyes.
- Georgia Tech (11-2): Two victories over Clemson (30-27, 39-34) and a thriller against No.4 Virginia Tech (28-23) have brought the Yellow Jackets this far. The ACC Champions only losses this season were to No.20 Miami, FL (33-17) and Georgia (30-24).
- Iowa (10-2): Big victories over No.5 Penn State (21-10) and Wisconsin (20-10) had the Nation looking at the Hawkeyes, but a stunning loss to Northwestern (17-10) ended all hopes of a National Title. A 3-point loss to No.11 Ohio State (27-24) ended the bid for a Big Ten title.
- Virginia Tech (9-3): Is being the Nation's best 3-loss team really an honor? The Hokies' season was highlighted by wins over No.19 Nebraska (16-15) and No.9 Miami, FL (31-7). However, a trio of losses to No.5 Alabama (34-24), No.19 Georgia Tech (28-23), and North Carolina (20-17) have placed the Hokies into a bowl game against the Tennessee Vols. Is that a reward or a punishment?
- Penn State (10-2): Good news was that their only losses were to Iowa (21-10) and No.16 Ohio State (24-7), both of whom finished the season ranked in the Top 10. The bad news is that the Nittany Lions really didn't beat anyone this year. At least JoePa didn't break a leg this season.
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Sometimes I wonder about you RW. Pittsburgh "ran the ball up the middle 30 times" in the 1st half alone.
Marshall going to a bowl game is a joke. The coachless Herd should've stayed home with Notre Dame.
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Hey RW,
You know I love the Hokies, right? It should be a fun game to watch.
Bugman, I'll eat my hat if Ryan Williams don't rush for at least 75 yards on the Vols. If you have not had the chance to watch this redshirt freshman play, it will be a treat.
Atlanta has not been very kind to VT this year though, with losses to 'Bama and GT.
We shall see. Let the jawing begin....
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In a year where no individual players really stood out on the offensive side of the ball, my vote for the Heisman goes to Nebraska's Ndamukong Suh
Tebow, McCoy, and Bradford were not that impressive. Toby Gerhart from Stanford has a shot, as well as Mark Ingram from Alabama. However, my vote is for Suh..
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Hey RW,
You know I love the Hokies, right? It should be a fun game to watch.
Bugman, I'll eat my hat if Ryan Williams don't rush for at least 75 yards on the Vols. If you have not had the chance to watch this redshirt freshman play, it will be a treat.
Atlanta has not been very kind to VT this year though, with losses to 'Bama and GT.
We shall see. Let the jawing begin....
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Hey "Tinkfan75," you know what they say about the third time being the charm. So with losses in Atlanta this season to Alabama and GT, the Chick-fil-A Bowl might change the fortunes of Virginia Tech.
Look where Virginia Tech's ranked, and the Vols are not in top-25. The Hokie Nation thought Virginia Tech would be BCS bound early in the season. That didn't happen, but they did have a good season, just not quite enough to make it to conference title game, though.
I heard on ESPN Sports Talk Radio on Monday afternoon where Virginia Tech placed nine players combined on first and second teams in ACC All-Conference.
Ryan Williams is a heckuva good running back. "Tinkfan75," if Ryan doesn't rush for over 75 yards, what flavor hat you going to eat? What about UT Vols orange sherbet flavor? HA HA HA
Virginia Tech is favored in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. With the Vols record at 7-5 under first-year coach Lane Kiffin, if the Hokies don't beat the Vols in this game, they'll never beat the Big Orange.
Hokie fans, y'all need to be struttin' around with your chests stuck way out ... because if VT beats the Vols this will be one of the biggest victories in Hokies history. I just hope the Vols can competitively stay on the same field as the Hokies. Tech's got some good athletes. The Vols are facing a tough task in trying to beat Virginia Tech.
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In a year where no individual players really stood out on the offensive side of the ball, my vote for the Heisman goes to Nebraska's Ndamukong Suh
Tebow, McCoy, and Bradford were not that impressive. Toby Gerhart from Stanford has a shot, as well as Mark Ingram from Alabama. However, my vote is for Suh..
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I don't want anybody whose name I can't even pronounce to win the Heisman. HA HA HA ... Nah, seriously, I'd seen Nebraska play some this year and Suh is a good ballplayer. But he's not Heisman material, at least not in my opinion.
Toby Gerhart just might've won the Heisman Trophy with his performance against Notre Dame. Mark Ingram's a lethal weapon. As he goes, goes the Crimson Tide. He's a game-changer!
But I hope Colt McCoy wins the Heisman. He's a good quarterback, and look at all the victories he's led the Longhorns to. He's got good career stats, and the Heisman is for individual performance.
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Sometimes I wonder about you RW. Pittsburgh "ran the ball up the middle 30 times" in the 1st half alone.
Marshall going to a bowl game is a joke. The coachless Herd should've stayed home with Notre Dame.
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I wasn't pulling for Pittsburgh. I don't care if it's Pitt or the Wisconsin Badgers or whomever, I don't like watching teams run the ball time-after-time. Throw the ball downfield and let the receivers (playmakers) use their athletic talent to create a "showtime" atmosphere. Scoring a lot of points with flair will put butts in the stadiums across the United States.
Some people like seeing a punishing ground game, but not me. If you want to watch running the ball, then watch Big 10 football. They like to call is "smash-mouth" football, but I don't see anything smash-mouth from the Big 10. Except, the BCS national title game saw the Big 10's Ohio State get their mouths smashed by the SEC.
"BugMan," who do you think will become the new Marshall coach?
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McCoy, Tebow among 5 Heisman finalists
By Ralph D. Russo, Associated Press College Football Writer
NEW YORK (AP) — Tim Tebow added another Heisman first to his long list of accomplishments just by being selected a finalist for this year’s trophy.
Tebow became the first player to be invited to the Heisman Trophy presentation ceremony three times when the Florida quarterback—along with Colt McCoy, Mark Ingram, Toby Gerhart and Ndamukong Suh—was named a finalist Monday for college football’s most prestigious player of the year award.
“Having the chance to go back to New York means a lot to me,” Tebow said in a statement. “It is a special honor but it wouldn’t be possible for me to have this opportunity without my teammates and coaches.”
The Heisman Trophy will be awarded Saturday in Manhattan. The presentation ceremony has been televised since 1981 and since 1982 at least three players have been invited to attend.
The last time as many as five players were invited to New York was 2004, when USC quarterback Matt Leinart won the award.
Tebow, who was the first sophomore to win the Heisman in 2007, is trying to become the second two-time Heisman winner, joining Ohio State’s Archie Griffin. Tebow finished third in the voting last year, while getting the most first-place votes.
He’s also the first player to finish in the top five of the Heisman voting three times since Georgia tailback Herschel Walker did it in the early 1980s.
McCoy was the runner-up last season to Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford and has led No. 2 Texas to the BCS national championship game this season.
Ingram has rushed for 1,542 yards and scored 15 touchdowns for No. 1 Alabama.
Stanford’s Gerhart, meanwhile, has run for more yards (1,736) and scored more touchdowns (26) than any player in the nation.
And Nebraska’s Suh had 4 1/2 sacks in an attention-grabbing performance against Texas in the Big 12 title game. He is the first defensive player to be a finalist since 1997, when Michigan cornerback Charles Woodson became the first full-time defensive player to win the Heisman.
Tebow and McCoy entered this season as heavy Heisman favorites, but neither has been as productive this season as last and neither will go into Saturday’s presentation as the front-runner.
Tebow returned for his senior season to try and lead the Gators to a third national title in four seasons, but he won’t reach that goal. After being No. 1 almost all season, Florida lost to Alabama 32-13 in the Southeastern Conference title game on Saturday and was knocked out of the national championship race.
The loss likely damaged Tebow’s chances at a second Heisman, too. He has passed for 2,413 yards and rushed for 859 yards this year.
Like Tebow, McCoy also returned for his senior season to make a championship run. He has Texas a victory away from its first national title since 2005, but his numbers also have fallen off compared to ’08.
McCoy has passed for 3,512 yards with 27 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. He also nearly threw away the Longhorns’ national championship hopes on the second-to-last play of the Nebraska game, coming within a second of letting the clock run out before Texas could attempt the winning field goal in a 13-12 victory.
McCoy could become the first player to win the Heisman the season after finishing second since Walker did it in 1982.
If there is a favorite, it seems to be Ingram.
Hesimanpundit.com, which polls 13 voters throughout the season, had Ingram on top of it’s latest results, just ahead of Gerhart.
Ingram could become Alabama’s first Heisman Trophy winner. He gave his Heisman campaign a late boost by running for 113 yards and scoring three touchdowns in the SEC title game against Florida.
“I’m looking forward to the experience and appreciate the opportunity to represent our team at the Heisman ceremony,” Ingram said in a statement.
Gerhart also ended his season with a flourish, running for 205 yards and three touchdowns and throwing a touchdown pass in a victory against Notre Dame.
“I am most pleased that my efforts along with those of so many others this year have put Stanford Football back on the national map,” Gerhart said.
Nobody finished stronger than Suh, who put together one of the most dominant defensive games in recent college football history in Nebraska’s near-upset of Texas. He finished the season with 12 sacks.
“It is good to see that the Heisman voters have recognized the true impact a dominant defensive lineman like Suh can have on a football game,” Nebraska coach Bo Pelini said.
Among the top players who didn’t make the cut were Clemson’s versatile tailback C.J. Spiller and Boise State quarterback Kellen Moore.
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Thought id send this back to the top!
GO HOKIES!
Were getting close boys and girls!
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Thanks for the bump racewizard...now it's time for the thump....as in the Vols thumping the Hokies! Seriously though, I think it will be a fantastic game and no way are we thinking it will be a cake walk, VT is waaaaaaay too good of a team. Truth is after not going to a bowl game last year us Vol fans are excited as well as thrilled to be playing our Virginia neighbors. Can't wait!!
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I was just scanning the bowl matchups. I can't see a matchup any better than the UT-VA Tech game. No other game has
- better potential to be an instant classic.
- teams that are capable of blowing the other out.
- potential for the entire game to "turn" on an unusual play.
- a matchup that could end with fans saying it was either an offensive or defensive juggernaut.
The unpredictable outcome of this game is greater than any other. There are way too many variables. Va Tech's offense has looked anemic at times this season, then looked like world-beaters. Their defense hasn't allowed a single point in the 2nd half of its last 4 games. Tennessee's offense has come and gone time and again while their defense has looked like world-beaters before losing both of their signal-calling middle linebackers for the season. They were stingy against Florida and Bama, then (although not at full strength) let Ole Miss and Dexter McCluster hang 42 on them. Who could forget that game? I'd sure like to.
The outcome of this game will largely come down on the shoulders of its QB's. Both have been "X" factors this season when it comes to their respective teams' successes and failures. If Tyrod shows and Crompton doesn't or vice versa, the other team will have a very long night.
http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2009/dec/29/full-speed-ahead-for-vols-offense/
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Excited here to Robbie, I have to disagree with the thump comment ..lol.But i agree with Bug , this could go either way, With Tech you seem to either get good offense or no offense..Havnt seen Tenn much but when I did . They looked like very dangerous. Looks like a toss up,Should be good,I hope it comes dwn to the wire, With the Hokies on top!
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We've got our menu planned out for tomorrow and have the downstairs area cleaned out. Could be an exciting game. We're making some BBQ Smokies for dinner...
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Marshall going to a bowl game is a joke. The coachless Herd should've stayed home with Notre Dame.
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It looks like Marshall isn't coachless anymore cause John "Doc" Holliday has signed a five-year contract to coach the Thundering Herd. The funny thing is he is West Virginia's assistant coach Marshall's biggest rival. He was signed to $600,000 per season. Not too bad...and I didn't know if you heard (you probally did) but Marshall beat their other rival Ohio in the Little Caesar's Bowl 21-17. HAHA! Anyway it looks like they aren't coachless anymore and Marshall done good by going to a bowl game. 
As for the VT and Vols game. I predict that Tech wins though. Neither team has played in a month so it will definately be a great game.
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The Virginia Tech Hokies are favored to win the Chick-fil-A Bowl over the Tennessee Vols. Tech's had a pretty good season, though it didn't live up to preseason hype for the Hokies up in Blacksburg and in the ACC.
Tennessee's had an up-and-down season. They really should've beaten UCLA, and moreso Alabama. But one can't look back and say "would've, should've, could've," the past is history ... and now you've got to focus on the present.
I just hope the Vols don't embarrass themselves and can stay on the same field with the Hokies. This being the second-ever meeting between the Vols and Hokies (with Vols winning Round 1), this game is the Hokies' to win. Look at the two teams' records and look at Tech's ranking in the polls. If the Hokies don't beat the Vols, then Va. Tech fans just might not wanna wish for a meeting against the Vols in the future.
If the Hokies win the Chick-fil-A Bowl, it will be relief to the Hokie Nation. Because Tech is the better team on paper, and is favored to win. Though we all know games aren't won on paper.
Special teams play has been mentioned in this topic, and the nod goes to the Hokies with having better special teams play. The kicking game is very important, as is kick coverage. Tennessee's been practicing three different kickers leading up to the game, and it's supposed to be a game-time decision on who will kick the ball. Heck, coach Lane Kiffin just might decide it's better to go for it on fourth-down if the team's within range of a field goal between 35-50 yards, with the Vols' poor kicking game this season.
GO VOLS!!!
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It looks like Marshall isn't coachless anymore cause John "Doc" Holliday has signed a five-year contract to coach the Thundering Herd. The funny thing is he is West Virginia's assistant coach Marshall's biggest rival. He was signed to $600,000 per season. Not too bad...and I didn't know if you heard (you probally did) but Marshall beat their other rival Ohio in the Little Caesar's Bowl 21-17. HAHA! Anyway it looks like they aren't coachless anymore and Marshall done good by going to a bowl game.
As for the VT and Vols game. I predict that Tech wins though. Neither team has played in a month so it will definately be a great game.
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I was pleasantly surprised at the Herd's victory over Ohio in the Lil Caesar's Bowl. They rushed out to a big lead, then held on. Kudos to Coach Minter and the staff for getting them prepared. It obviously meant more to the players to finally get back to a bowl game, even if it was one of the lower tiered games.
Now speedy, I have to call a spade a spade here. Way too much has been made as to where Doc is coming from. WVU-Marshall to me is not and may never be a rival game because Marshall has NEVER beaten WVU. The two teams have met only 9 times in the past 99 years, with Marshall's best performance coming in a 17-15 loss in 1911. Here are the other scores and year played...obviously WVU won them all:
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Milan Puskar Stadium |
Morgantown, WV |
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| 09/08/2007 |
Joan C. Edwards Stadium |
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| 09/02/2006 |
Milan Puskar Stadium |
Morgantown, WV |
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| 08/30/1997 |
Milan Puskar Stadium |
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WVU Athletic Field |
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WVU Athletic Field |
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WVU Athletic Field |
Morgantown, WV |
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How some of our fans have ever considered this a rivalry is beyond me. Will Marshall beat WVU someday? Yes, but trust me when I say this in-state "rivalry" will continue to be about as exciting as Tennessee-Vandy most of the time.
Marshall made a huge mistake when it didn't petition the Big East for membership when it got raided by the ACC. Instead, they opted for Conference USA, leaving us traveling all over the country and spending way more on expenses to play in a watered-down conference. Marshall's stance? They (CUSA) were a better conference "from top to bottom". This just in: If you lose money on football, you can no longer fund all of the other Title IX athletics. This is a huge reason why Snyder isn't there anymore. Attendance dropped almost 30% this season from last and we went to a bowl game! Crazy eh?
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Oh man, don't get me started on the politics of College Football BugMan. I know what You mean! HAHA!
My old college suite mate (Clayton) and I have been going back and forth for the past couple of weeks about who would be the best addition to the Big (11) Ten, as well as other topics. For instance, did anyone else seem to think that the Big East was stronger than the ACC this season? Kind of funny considering that the ACC 'raided' the Big East, as BugMan correctly stated.
Teams conference hop along the way and it's interesting to follow their progress. Could it be time for Villanova, who won the NCAA FCS Division I-AA Championship in 2009, to move up to D-1 and join the Big East? I like seeing schools step it up, especially when its other programs are already D-1.
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I have to agree with you cause you make some good points. Marshall and WV aren't BIG rivals, but they are rivals none the less. Alot of rivalries aren't big but are still considered rivalries. I also agree with what you said about Doc having too much made about where he is coming from. But it came as a surprise to some. I especially agree that going to the C-USA conference was a bad move seeing as how the closest other team is Memphis. Bad move. Agree 100%. I understand they are losing money big time but looking at the Big East and how strong the teams are there now was it a good move for Marshall to go to C-USA in the long run? Now i have only been a fan of Marshall for about 5 years now but i've been to there stadium quite a few times and i've also learned about them alot. But i can totally understand where you are coming from Bugman. 
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Back to the Herd in a sec Speedy. Excuse me while I congratlate the Tech fans for a game well played last night. They spanked the VOLS all over the field and spanked em as badly on the sidelines...Tennessee was outcoached as bad as I've seen all year.
Okay Speedy, lol...The reason they added to and left the stadium was so they could play in a better conference. You can get over 40 in there now, but it's designed to end up at 70 if needed.
As far as Big East vs CUSA, they would've been a much different football team now had they gone Big East. They would've recruited a much different athlete because they would've been a BCS school. That alone would've upgraded recruiting. I would've been more worried about being competitive about basketball than football. Marshall could beat several Big East teams even now.
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WHAT A GAME!!!!! From start to finish!!!
Even the Vols mascot, Rocky, played dead!!!!!
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All right silly willy...if you're gonna gig me, at least get the mascot's name right, LOL!
It's "Smokey", and he wishes he were a Hokie too, LOL!
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Whether one is a UT fan or a VT fan, ya had to love the close-up's of Smokey late in the game, laying on his side with his back to the field, glancing back toward the field a couple of times, looking all sad and forelorn... then he looked straight at the camera with a look that could have said, "Is it not over yet?". Those images should make the highlight video's for sure.
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I'm actually shocked I haven't seen that replayed on TV or photographed and posted all over the net. I admit it was priceless, hehehe!
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Heard he changed his name from Rocky to Smokey after the game!!! CAUSE HOKIES WAS SMOKIN' HOT IN THE GAME!!!! LOL
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Heard anything about the Vols quarterback. Some friends were at the game and told that they sent him to the hospital after that last sack he took to be checked out.
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Here ya go Woo-Woo.
http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2010/jan/01/crompton-suffers-concussion-released-hospital/
Jonathan Crompton was battered over and over.
The Tennessee quarterback kept coming back for more from a physical Virginia Tech defense, but he couldn’t have returned after taking one last shot with the Chick-fil-A Bowl decided.
After taking the sixth sack of the game on fourth-and-10 in the final minute and slamming his head on the turf to end UT’s 37-14 loss to Virginia Tech on Thursday night, Crompton finally had a hard time getting up.
The 6-foot-4, 228-pound senior exhibited concussion-like symptoms in the locker room after the game and was a taken by ambulance to an area hospital for further testing, according to his mother, Janet.
Crompton suffered what his father David called “a pretty severe concussion” in an interview Friday with Asheville Citizen-Times.
“He gave us a heckuva scare,” David Crompton told the newspaper. “They did some tests, including a CAT scan, to make sure there wasn’t any bleeding around the brain or anything like that. Everything checked out OK and he left the hospital about (3 a.m.) “It’s a pretty severe concussion and he’s hurting some now, but he’ll be fine in a few days.”
Crompton has been repeatedly praised for the second-half surge he led with improved play under center, but he didn’t get much help against the Hokies.
The Vols had only given up 12 sacks all season before the bowl, but the pressure on him wasn’t the only issue. He nearly led another resurgence with UT trailing by 13 points in the fourth quarter, but a sure-touchdown on a perfectly thrown ball to Denarius Moore was dropped and a possible comeback was effectively over.
Crompton finished 15 of 26 for 235 yards, with one touchdown and an interception.
David Crompton told the Asheville Citizen-Times his son was en route to the family home in Waynesville, N.C., where he will rest for a few days before beginning workouts with former NFL quarterback Zeke Bratkowski to prepare for the NFL Draft.
After struggling through his first three seasons at Tennessee, Crompton finished strong under first-year UT coach Lane Kiffin.
He had nine touchdowns and nine interceptions in his first three years, but in 2009 he completed 224-of-384 passes (58 percent) for 2,800 yards, with 27 touchdowns and 13 interceptions.
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Here's another excellent (and very true) piece on Crompton, courtesy govolsxtra.com:
http://blogs.knoxnews.com/askgriff/2010/01/sad_but_true_tennessee_failed.html
Sad but true, Tennessee failed Crompton
Tennessee quarterback Jonathan Crompton finished his collegiate career in an ambulance, being rushed to a hospital with yet another concussion after the Chik-fil-A Bowl Thursday night.
This, five years after coming to Knoxville as a top-five, can't-miss prospect with dreams and a determination to lead the Vols to championships.
"You're going to see I'm the most competitive player you've ever covered,'' Crompton told me after a visit to UT his senior year of high school.
You know what? Despite what the numbers and records will reflect, Crompton certainly does rank among the most competitive players I've covered.
Crompton did nothing to bring negativity and failures upon himself.
He signed with UT wanting only a chance to compete for the starting position, as he was promised.
But that was before offensive coordinator Randy Sanders resigned and David Cutcliffe was brought in.
That changed "the deal" as Crompton headed into his second year with the Vols.
One of the first things Cutcliffe did after taking over as offensive coordinator was to name Erik Ainge the starter.
There was no competition: Ainge's psyche couldn't handle it, as was proven the year before when Rick Clausen outplayed him in a spring quarterback competition.
So Crompton was on the bench and eventually running steps at Neyland Stadium.
I remember when I heard about that, I called former coach Phillip Fulmer.
"What the heck is going on? I've never seen you have quarterbacks run steps before - that guy is gonna be your future quarterback, right?''
Fulmer's response: "David knows what he's doing.''
Say this for Cutcliffe: He knew what he was doing against the Virginia Tech defense this season, as Duke passed for 359 yards in a tight 34-26 loss to the Hokies.
But back to Crompton, and his unfortunate plight.
Once Cutcliffe left, there was a light at the end of the tunnel. Or so it seemed.
New offensive coordinator Dave Clawson was all about giving Crompton opportunities - maybe too much, too soon.
I remember the phone call I got from former UT quarterback Casey Clausen after the Vols' road loss at UCLA Crompton's junior year.
"What are they doing having him throw the ball more than 40 times in his first road start?'' Clausen said. "I don't know if I ever threw the ball that much in a game, much less in my first start. That's just too much.''
There were other issues in 2008: Like no dynamic receivers, and an offensive line that was thoroughly confused by Clawson's complex blocking schemes.
Then there were Crompton's injuries, most of them hidden, later revealed by Crompton's roommate, defensive lineman Wes Brown, prior to this season.
It turned out Crompton had an injured ankle throughout much of the 2008 season, explaining his lack of mobility and reluctance to tuck and run. Also, Crompton played through concussions.
How many? When? We don't know.
But Brown said Crompton is the toughest player he's ever met.
The hidden injuries help explain why the door was opened wide for Nick Stephens to see playing time during that dreadful 5-7 season.
Lane Kiffin was the best thing to happen to Crompton, standing behind his embattled quarterback this season even when the Tennessee fan base had turned on him.
Crompton was ripped unmercifully by the Vols' fans on talk radio and Internet message boards. Many in the media drove the bus over Crompton, and backed it up over Kiffin.
The question: "Why is Kiffin sticking with Crompton?'' was heard throughout the first half of the season.
Kiffin tried to explain the failures that were taking place amid an injured and young receiving corps, but his arguments rang hallow until the second half of the season.
Through it all, Crompton kept his composure, keeping a stiff upper lip, saying all the right things you would expect from a leader and staying clear of any kind of off-field issues.
When a competent offensive plan and decent support cast finally came into fruition, Crompton showed everyone what they had been missing - the fans, Fulmer, Cutcliffe and opponents.
But Virginia Tech was another matter, and this time Kiffin's confidence and Jim Chaney's brilliant scouting weren't enough to help.
Looking back at some Austin Ward articles, Kiffin tipped his hand that the Vols weren't focused, bringing the subject up on consecutive days.
"We're trying to tighten it up...there are so many distractions,'' Kiffin said. "They need constant reminders that the main thing they're here for is to get a win for Tennessee..."
Chaney didn't see many holes in the Hokies, even though they were missing a starting cornerback: "It's going to come down to execution,'' he said in one of the News Sentinel's bowl articles leading up to the game.
Virginia Tech wasn't a dynamo - it didn't even reach the ACC Championship game and lost to North Carolina 20-17 at home, and allowed Alabama 498 yards in a 34-24 loss.
But the Hokies were hungry, and they understood the regional significance of what a win over Tennessee would do for recruiting in the Tri-State area.
The Vols' plan wasn't the problem - the execution Chaney referred to, was. Crompton was sacked six times, and key passes were dropped.
The defense wasn't in lock-down mode. Eric Berry was largely absent in his UT finale, looking more out of position than ever.
It appeared some other Vols cashed it in after a tough first half left Virginia Tech with a 17-14 lead.
The Hokies outscored UT 20-0 in the second half, and Crompton wound up in an ambulance.
Crompton deserved better, and that will be his legacy as a Volunteer.
In my mind, he's the guy who got the short end of the stick, more so than any Volunteer player, coach or fan, in the first decade of this century.
I did a radio remote last week in Knoxville, and a Tennessee fan took the time to show up and tell me in person his thoughts on Crompton.
"He's the worst quarterback in the history of the program, and the reason WE lost so many games,'' the man said.
All I could do was just shake my head in disbelief, just like I did watching the second half of the Chik-fil-A Bowl as the Tennessee team collapsed around Crompton.
Has any Tennessee quarterback ever had it worse?
Crompton wasn't perfect, but he deserved better -- much better -- from Tennessee.
Posted by Mike Griffith on January 1, 2010 at 12:54 PM |
Edited by BugMan on January-02-2010 at 2:55pm
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Go Hokies!
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Whether one is a UT fan or a VT fan, ya had to love the close-up's of Smokey late in the game, laying on his side with his back to the field, glancing back toward the field a couple of times, looking all sad and forelorn... then he looked straight at the camera with a look that could have said, "Is it not over yet?". Those images should make the highlight video's for sure.
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Indeed, it was funny seeing Smokey laying on the sidelines when the TV camera caught him with that "Oh, we're getting killed" look on his face. While talking with a buddy of mine on the phone when that was showed, we each laughed and said "Ol' Smokey's wanting this game to hurry and end."
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Congratulations Virginia Tech fans, y'all won the Chick-fil-A Bowl!!!
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