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I absolutely cannot believe how this environmental disaster has been handled by these yayhoos.
As Northwestern Captain Sig of the TV show "The Deadliest Catch" so accurately stated on "After the Catch" the other night, "This is the second largest fishery in the country"...he is correct and if this cap doesn't fix the problem, I'd blow the British off of the map...AGAIN!
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Old Poopie Head (Racerslounge.com Owner)
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I refuse to jump on the bandwagon against BP. Why? Because we don't know exactly how the Fed. Govt has hindered their actions. In addition, it was the Fed Govt.'s responsibility to prevent this accident. BP is not going to do anything except follow the regulations they are given. Who would expect a for-profit company to do anymore that costs more money? So, the regulations didn't call for two safety valves (as is the case in other countries) and there were many other mistakes by the Fed Govt. This is just a case of the Fed's trying to keep the spotlight off of them.
I commend BP for taking action and spending BILLIONS of dollars to try to fix this mess. They could have simply walked away and said you fix it (to the feds). Either way, they're going to be investigated for criminal and civil liability, so you figure on that.
They're doing the "right thing" and should be commended. If it were that easy to fix, then those complaining about the way it is being handled should get their butts in their big fat SUV, fill up with oil and gas, and go down to the Gulf and fix it.

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BURKS73B1SB0FAN Rookie


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Could not have said it any better Oldpro. If it wasn't for the Fed Gov, they would not be drilling in deep water in the first place. Thats all I'm going to say before I get so mad that I can not think calmly.
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tyrodtom94 Track Champion

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BP's parent company drilled it's first offshore oil well in 1947, they would, or certainly should know what is and isn't realistic minimum safety requirements, far better than any government agency. They decided to take a risk, for the almighty dollar, and killed 11 of their own workers, besides all the enviromental damage they've done, and still doing.
Criminal investigation justified ? You better believe it .
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Old Poopie Head (Racerslounge.com Owner)
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tyrodtom94 wrote:
BP's parent company drilled it's first offshore oil well in 1947, they would, or certainly should know what is and isn't realistic minimum safety requirements, far better than any government agency. They decided to take a risk, for the almighty dollar, and killed 11 of their own workers, besides all the enviromental damage they've done, and still doing.
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Tom,that sounds like it came straight from the Fed Govt or the mostly Fed Govt protecting media.
However, the thing that caught my attention, from your post was the fact that BP drilled it's first well in 1947. Let's see, that was 63 years ago. 63 years of our enjoying the benefits of cheap oil, and no major accidents by BP?
When a company tries to make as much money as it can for it's shareholders it's not greed. It is free enterprise.
If they didn't use REQUIRED (by the Fed Govt) safety practices, then yes, they should be criminally investigated. If they did use every safety practice required by the regulatory authority over Deep Sea drilling, then they did nothing wrong.
The Feds haven't stepped up and taken their responsibility. BP has.
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BURKS73B1SB0FAN wrote:
Could not have said it any better Oldpro. If it wasn't for the Fed Gov, they would not be drilling in deep water in the first place. Thats all I'm going to say before I get so mad that I can not think calmly.  |
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I'll help you out. There are many other safer places they could be drilling, but the Feds won't let them. Right?
On top of that, the Federal Govt regulates drilling, and unless they did something that the regulations said they couldn't or didn't do something that regulations said they had to, then they didn't do anything wrong.
As for the employees that were killed in the explosion, it wasn't just blue collar workers that were killed. There were executives on the platform, too.
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Old Poopie Head (Racerslounge.com Owner)
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You can bet your Fed Govt is going to try to hang BP, from the administration all the way to Congress, because they don't want the spotlight on them. It's all purely political, purely political.
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tyrodtom94 Track Champion

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When I make a mistake, I take personel responsibility for it, I don't shift the blame to somebody else. BP is shifting the blame, i'm not falling for it.
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How the heck is BP shifting blame? They received a safety award from this govt just days/months before this all happened. Where was the govt?
There are a lot of places on US soil they could drill and be safe, but the govt snatches up the land and says no.
The govt thinks that stop drilling and building windmills and solar panels is going to fix things. What they are not telling or have forgotten is that there are other products that are made from petroleum that we used every day of our lives like plastics and the following:
A partial list of products made from Petroleum (144 of 6000 items)
One 42-gallon barrel of oil creates 19.4 gallons of gasoline. The rest (over half) is used to make things like:
Solvents
Diesel fuel
Motor Oil
Bearing Grease
Ink
Floor Wax
Ballpoint Pens
Football Cleats
Upholstery
Sweaters
Boats
Insecticides
Bicycle Tires
Sports Car Bodies
Nail Polish
Fishing lures
Dresses
Tires
Golf Bags
Perfumes
Cassettes
Dishwasher parts
Tool Boxes
Shoe Polish
Motorcycle Helmet
Caulking
Petroleum Jelly
Transparent Tape
CD Player
Faucet Washers
Antiseptics
Clothesline
Curtains
Food Preservatives
Basketballs
Soap
Vitamin Capsules
Antihistamines
Purses
Shoes
Dashboards
Cortisone
Deodorant
Footballs
Putty
Dyes
Panty Hose
Refrigerant
Percolators
Life Jackets
Rubbing Alcohol
Linings
Skis
TV Cabinets
Shag Rugs
Electrician's Tape
Tool Racks
Car Battery Cases
Epoxy
Paint
Mops
Slacks
Insect Repellent
Oil Filters
Umbrellas
Yarn
Fertilizers
Hair Coloring
Roofing
Toilet Seats
Fishing Rods
Lipstick
Denture Adhesive
Linoleum
Ice Cube Trays
Synthetic Rubber
Speakers
Plastic Wood
Electric Blankets
Glycerin
Tennis Rackets
Rubber Cement
Fishing Boots
Dice
Nylon Rope
Candles
Trash Bags
House Paint
Water Pipes
Hand Lotion
Roller Skates
Surf Boards
Shampoo
Wheels
Paint Rollers
Shower Curtains
Guitar Strings
Luggage
Aspirin
Safety Glasses
Antifreeze
Football Helmets
Awnings
Eyeglasses
Clothes
Toothbrushes
Ice Chests
Footballs
Combs
CD's & DVD's
Paint Brushes
Detergents
Vaporizers
Balloons
Sun Glasses
Tents
Heart Valves
Crayons
Parachutes
Telephones
Enamel
Pillows
Dishes
Cameras
Anesthetics
Artificial Turf
Artificial limbs
Bandages
Dentures
Model Cars
Folding Doors
Hair Curlers
Cold cream
Movie film
Soft Contact lenses
Drinking Cups
Fan Belts
Car Enamel
Shaving Cream
Ammonia
Refrigerators
Golf Balls
Toothpaste
Gasoline
The govt wants control of everything in our lives. I going to stop before I explode.
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The Good Lord giveth, the Federal Government taketh away!!!
__________________ Thats LIFE!!! Get over it and get on with it!!!
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WOOWOO wrote:
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Amen!!
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