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Posted: June-16-2009 at 9:05am | IP Logged Quote Bobby Gobble  

How does somebody only get 30 days in jail for pleading guilty to DUI and manslaughter. He also gets 1,000 hours community service and placed on probation for 10 years. Do you think you would have got this small smack on the hand for being drunk and running over somebody waiting on a bus? 

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Posted: June-16-2009 at 10:14am | IP Logged Quote Van_84  

If you have money, it makes a difference. There is a LONG line of celebrities, athletes, and rich-and-famous types that get off with a slap on the wrist. Thankfully, people spoke up against Michael Vick. He'll still make his money somewhere though.

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Posted: June-16-2009 at 2:06pm | IP Logged Quote BugMan  

As Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast my friends"!

This deal was acceptable to the victim's family. Donte not only stopped when he hit this man, who by the way was not in a crosswalk, but has shown tremendous remorse. He even had time to flash his lights as a warning that his vehicle was approaching, but somehow, this unfortunate soul was still not out of the way when Donte got there.

The family pushed hard for a speedy sentence/settlement, with "settlement" being the operative word here.

I don't condone one bit what Donte did, but when you look at the big picture, it would certainly appear to me that the family of the victim went for the dough and not a stiff sentence. What exactly does that say for them? No amount of money is going to bring their loved one back, yet they set sail in that direction almost immediately, not Stallworth.

Here is the most recent piece I could find regarding this tragedy:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4262751

One more thing: Donte Stallworth will not only receive a 30 day jail sentence, but will be on probation for ten years. He will be under house arrest for two of those years, and he is now under a lifetime driving ban, which he could regain in 5 years but soley for the purpose of traveling to and from work.

Here's my other problem with all of this. Are the courts not the final word anymore? Why does the NFL feel the need to continue to punish those players who have "paid their debt to society"? Is 10 years that was agreeable by the victim's family not enough for the NFL or is the NFL now the nation's higher court? I do not agree with that at all at any level. If this had happened to a coal miner, there'd be a riot if the company didn't put the man back to work after serving an agreed upon sentence. I think there needs to be an intervention by the courts with regards to those companies/organizations/leagues that think they still feel the need to punish a man after he's served his sentence.

The NFL has stiff rules and penalties for hitting a man while they're down. I think it's time they practice what they so often preach.

 



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Posted: June-16-2009 at 8:39pm | IP Logged Quote Bobby Gobble  

money was all they were after guess money does buy happiness even at the cost of a loved one



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This deal was acceptable to the victim's family. The family pushed hard for a speedy sentence/settlement, with "settlement" being the operative word here. I don't condone one bit what Donte did, but when you look at the big picture, it would certainly appear to me that the family of the victim went for the dough and not a stiff sentence. What exactly does that say for them? No amount of money is going to bring their loved one back, yet they set sail in that direction almost immediately, not Stallworth.
 
 
Yeah, it definitely appears the bottom line for the family was to take the money and run. That's just hard for me to comprehend. I don't know anything about the family, but it sure comes across as just pure greed. Show me the $$$money$$$!!! Maybe the money they'll receive will help their grieving. Nah, I believe when they realized a wealthy athlete is who killed their loved one, dollar signs began flashing before their eyes.
 
 
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Donte not only stopped when he hit this man, who by the way was not in a crosswalk, but has shown tremendous remorse. He even had time to flash his lights as a warning that his vehicle was approaching, but somehow, this unfortunate soul was still not out of the way when Donte got there.
 
 
Now "BugMan," this is where you and I differ on how we see the situation, I believe. Maybe I've misunderstood what you've said above. To me it doesn't matter the man wasn't in a crosswalk. Or that Stallworth even had time to flash his lights as a warning his vehicle was approaching. The facts are, Stallworth's blood alcohol level was well above the legal limit in the state of Florida. Stallworth had been out partying all night long. It's been reported Stallworth left a bar at 7:30 a.m. He was speeding. And with the alcohol in his system, he shouldn't have even been behind the wheel driving. Being his blood-alcohol level was well above the limit, wonder just how much alcohol Stallworth had consumed during the night, being the accident occured a little after 7:30 a.m.?

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One more thing: Donte Stallworth will not only receive a 30 day jail sentence, but will be on probation for ten years. He will be under house arrest for two of those years, and he is now under a lifetime driving ban, which he could regain in 5 years but soley for the purpose of traveling to and from work.

Here's my other problem with all of this. Are the courts not the final word anymore? Why does the NFL feel the need to continue to punish those players who have "paid their debt to society"? Is 10 years that was agreeable by the victim's family not enough for the NFL or is the NFL now the nation's higher court? I do not agree with that at all at any level. If this had happened to a coal miner, there'd be a riot if the company didn't put the man back to work after serving an agreed upon sentence. I think there needs to be an intervention by the courts with regards to those companies/organizations/leagues that think they still feel the need to punish a man after he's served his sentence.


It's just a slap in the face to the average American citizen, to see Stallworth is only being sentenced to 30 days in jail. Sure, there's the two years of house arrest and 10 years of probation. I'm sure some won't agree with me, but I think Stallworth should be locked up and the keys thrown away for driving while under the influence and killing the man. I don't care what kind of remorse Stallworth is showing. The bottom line is, because of his stupidity (getting behind the wheel under the influence of either alcohol or drugs) he killed someone. He should NEVER be allowed to drive again!!!!!

I hope I never have a loved one get killed by either a drunken driver or a driver under the influence of drugs, because trust me ... I will do anything/everything in my power to hopefully see the guilty party never sees the outside of a jail cell. The loss of life of one of my family members, there's no dollar figure to replace them.

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Posted: June-16-2009 at 10:11pm | IP Logged Quote RW  

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If you have money, it makes a difference. There is a LONG line of celebrities, athletes, and rich-and-famous types that get off with a slap on the wrist.

You're so right, "Van_84." And it's definitely not right, either.

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Posted: June-17-2009 at 1:08am | IP Logged Quote Van_84  

I believe that I was actually in Boca Raton, FL about 10 days after this happened. That is all they were talking about on the radio. I am glad that Donté was a man about everything and owned up to his part.

The same cannot be said for Plaxico Burress, Adam Jones, and Brandon Marshall. There are some real punks in the major league ranks of professional sports. I still cannot believe that Michael Vick would be so stupid as to try and raise dogs to fight for money. He ruined his entire life over that deal.

It's like some of us Pure 4 guys were talking about the other day at the track, if someone offers us a REAL ride and tells us that we cannot eat ketchup...you won't even find us near a FRENCH FRY!

People that squander the opportunities to make a great living doing what most people would love to do are idiots, just like Shane Hmiel, Kevin Grubb, and Michael Vick. It doesn't matter whether you are NASCAR, MLB, NFL, or a CEO of a company. Everyone has a wild streak at some point (or at least they should), but eventually you need to grow up.

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Posted: June-17-2009 at 6:57am | IP Logged Quote BugMan  

Understand something here. I in no way approve of what Donte Stallworth did. I don't drink anymore so I don't have to worry about getting behind the wheel of a car and something like this happening.

I also understand RW why you would want to put em away forever and throw away the lock and key. I would too. The punishment obviously doesn't fit the crime because Donte is in the NFL. I also have a huge problem with the NFL thinking they continually have to punish players after their sentences by the courts. Vick is a perfect example. He paid his debt to society at the federal level and the league still wants to punish him? At some point, you have to let a man move on.

 

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Posted: June-17-2009 at 9:27am | IP Logged Quote Van_84  

I have to disagree with your last statement Bug_Man. These are not regular people, they are watched by millions upon millions of people around the world. My feeling is that once you reach a certain level of fame, you are then thrust into the spotlight regardless of whether you want to be or not. This is not something that is limited to sports though. Does anyone remember Kurt Cobain?

Why do you think Brandon Marshall and the other young idiots (because there are a LOT of them at the college level) keep getting arrested and continue to find themselves in legal problems? They know that if they make it to the big time, then they will be charged a fine, might serve a month or two in jail, and then collect their millions again! This looks horrible for professional sports.

If you work for a corporation and you are arrested for dog fighting and sent to prison (or house arrest) for 2 years, do you really think that the company would want to take you back after you are released? The company's name would be thrown in the mud by every newspaper around for hiring such a person. This really isn't that different of a situation, just that these guys get paid millions of dollars. Why should they get to keep their cushy jobs after doing something as ignorant as what Michael Vick, Plaxico Burress, and others have done?

In the case of Donté Stallworth, a corporation could work with you on that. Of course, you would need to take an alcohol abuse rehabilitation program as standard procedure (even if that was your first and only alcoholic drink of your life). There are certain cause and effect mechanisms in our world and professional athletes should NOT be immune to them.

If I shot myself at a nightclub (and then said that someone shot me at Applebee's), would anyone hire me? If it was publicly known that I was involved in a dog fight ring, would anyone hire me? NO!

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Posted: June-17-2009 at 3:12pm | IP Logged Quote BugMan  

We'll agree to disagree on some of this I'm sure Van84. You see, I don't hold anyone to a higher standard as all are created equal. I believe it's one's personal choice to uphold folks like actors, professional athletes, etc. to a higher standard. They're no better or no worse than the next person in my eyes. Judging a person because of whom they are isn't the right thing, which obviously has today's society a bit fouled up don't you think?

I'm fully aware that certain individuals can influence the outcome of an unfortunate situation just like this one. I'm not that naive. The problem I do have however, is that if an employer or league such as the NFL is not going to continue to employ a person after they've paid their debt to society, they should be up front about it. What the NFL is doing is basically saying that they might continue to employ them, but only after they have their way with them...all of this after they've been in prison for Pete's sake. I just don't agree with that method. I mean it's all relative. Sure the professionals make alot of money, but in comparison the common man is going to get hurt just as bad if a company leads them on, only to drop them like a hot potato when they could've just said up front they've washed their hands of the individual to begin with.

This man made a deal quickly because the victim's family wanted it that way. Did it influence the eventual outcome? You betcha. I really believe had the family let the system handle it, that Donte Stallworth would've been behind bars for a very long time.

The bottom line is that we have glorified athletes and actors/actresses and many others to the point where it's all twisted. Why anyone would be surprised and/or outraged by the Stallworth decision is beyond me. It's not like it hasn't happened before many times over.

 

 

 

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Posted: June-17-2009 at 3:29pm | IP Logged Quote BugMan  

Here's the latest on Stallworth:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=4267011

The piece is dead on, which supports what I stated in my last post. Nothing the NFL does is going to have much of an effect anyway compared to the burden Donte will carry the rest of his life, so why even go there?

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Posted: June-17-2009 at 4:41pm | IP Logged Quote WideOne  

No one reading this forum would have walked after 30 days.

At least Vic got a year and a half for killing dogs and Plexico will do a year for shooting himself.

30 days? I don't care how much blood money it took to buy this sentence, where is the law?

Wonder if Stallworth would have manned up if it was 3 years in jail? I doubt it, but we'll never know since these people are simply not subject to the laws the rest of us have held over our heads.

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Posted: July-11-2009 at 8:46pm | IP Logged Quote Brocephus  

He actually got out in 24 days... I guarantee if I had done that, I'd be in Brushy for the next 5 to 15...

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Posted: July-12-2009 at 6:26am | IP Logged Quote BugMan  

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He actually got out in 24 days... I guarantee if I had done that, I'd be in Brushy for the next 5 to 15...

That would be quite the punishment Brocephus, especially since Brushy is now closed

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Posted: July-12-2009 at 12:32pm | IP Logged Quote Brocephus  

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Brocephus wrote:
He actually got out in 24 days... I guarantee if I had done that, I'd be in Brushy for the next 5 to 15...

That would be quite the punishment Brocephus, especially since Brushy is now closed

 

Oh man... I live 10 minutes from there and forgot about it being closed...



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Well, I see the Cleveland Browns released Donte' Stallworth. I applaud the team for doing so, and I hope no other NFL team signs Stallworth.

I believe most everybody (average working class person) in society is fed-up with seeing professional athletes receive preferential treatment just because they're a pro athlete.

What's really sad, Stallworth had signed the huge contract and would've had more than enough money to support his family for the rest of his life. But he threw it all away by choosing to get behind the wheel while impaired, thus resulting in him killing someone.
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CLEVELAND (AP) — Donte’ Stallworth will get the chance to resurrect his NFL career, but it won’t happen in Cleveland.

The Browns released the troubled wide receiver on Monday, wasting little time after NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Friday that Stallworth would be reinstated following the Super Bowl.

Stallworth was suspended for the 2009 season by Goodell after he pleaded guilty to killing a pedestrian while driving drunk in Florida. He spent 24 days in jail.

“I think he’s in a better place than he was,” Goodell said on Friday, adding that he met with Stallworth about a month ago. “I think he recognizes what he did and the horrific nature and the unfortunate outcome, and I think he’s prepared himself to get back in and play.”

Stallworth, 29, spent one season with the Browns, catching 17 passes for 170 yards and one touchdown in 2008 while battling injuries. A college star at Tennessee, he has also played with New England, Philadelphia and New Orleans since the Saints drafted him in the first round in 2002.

Browns coach Eric Mangini dodged questions about Stallworth’s future with the team throughout the season. Since then, Mike Holmgren took over as president of the Browns. The team released a one sentence statement on Monday stating Stallworth’s contract had been terminated.

Stallworth struck 59-year-old crane operator Mario Reyes the morning of March 14 in Miami. He pleaded guilty June 16 to DUI manslaughter, a second-degree felony, and was suspended by Goodell two days later.

“I will carry the burden of Mr. Reyes’ death for the rest of my life,” Stallworth said in a statement at the time. “I urge NFL fans not to judge NFL players or me based on my tragic lapse in judgment. I am a good person who did a bad thing. I will use the period of my suspension to reflect, fulfill my obligations, and use this experience to make a positive impact on the lives of those who look up to NFL players.”

Stallworth signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with Cleveland in 2008 and received a $4.5 million bonus the night before the crash.

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